Project Super Beater

[67GTA]

Lisle makes an extractor tool specifically for the mod motor. Here’s a video of the process:

 

[blacksheep-1]

Lisle makes an extractor tool specifically for the mod motor. Here’s a video of the process:

Just ordered it, I may borrow a buddys for now because it will take a couple of weeks for delivery

 

[blacksheep-1]

Problem is, this engine has a ton of miles on it, if this works, fine, if not, then I would normally pull the heads, but then you have to yank around with the timing chains, so you might as well replace the tensioners, so you might as well replace the oil pump... etc etc.
So at some point, going down this rabbit hole, I might as well just get a crate motor.

 

[Bill Pemberton]

That is a "Crate " idea!! Welcome to the new thread , " Super Fast " Beater , or maybe just " Damn good looking Sleeper. "

Either way , keep this thread going , for those of us in the cold Midwest , this is our version of an " Automotive " Soap Opera. I look forward to the next episode on Monday.

 

[funksouljon]

Problem is, this engine has a ton of miles on it, if this works, fine, if not, then I would normally pull the heads, but then you have to yank around with the timing chains, so you might as well replace the tensioners, so you might as well replace the oil pump... etc etc.
So at some point, going down this rabbit hole, I might as well just get a crate motor.

I have found a couple of these dilemma topics on the car for this year. Seats. Stripes. Prep for motor work.

 

[blacksheep-1]

Ok so here we go..
A couple of caveats, if the top of the electrode stays with the porcelin in the plug bore, break it off. Or try to extract it
( good luck with that one) the electrode has corroded to the porcelin and it wont pop out and go into the combustion chamber. If it does, you can still fish it out with a small magnet. The reason is that you need EVERY bit of metal there for the tool to grab.
As it was, the Lisle tool worked spectacularly until plug 4. It was tired on plug 3, but plug 4 was a no go and it pulled out of the metal.. so..
Because I'm a realist, I purchased both a Lisle and a NAPA version. The lisle is by far the better piece IMO.
The difference is that the NAPA version actually uses a tap to make the threads, and the puller threads on those. In real life, this puller pulled out as well, but upon further review I noticed the tap was a standard tap, it should be a bottom tap, so a trip to the grinder created a bottom tap. I ran it in, it grabbed and #4 was exctracted.. done deal.
These things make all sorts of snaps and pops and its pretty unnerving, but it's just the way the tool works.
Now " Onward! into the fog.

 

[drzed]

Ok so here we go..
A couple of caveats, if the top of the electrode stays with the porcelin in the plug bore, break it off. Or try to extract it
( good luck with that one) the electrode has corroded to the porcelin and it wont pop out and go into the combustion chamber. If it does, you can still fish it out with a small magnet. The reason is that you need EVERY bit of metal there for the tool to grab.
As it was, the Lisle tool worked spectacularly until plug 4. It was tired on plug 3, but plug 4 was a no go and it pulled out of the metal.. so..
Because I'm a realist, I purchased both a Lisle and a NAPA version. The lisle is by far the better piece IMO.
The difference is that the NAPA version actually uses a tap to make the threads, and the puller threads on those. In real life, this puller pulled out as well, but upon further review I noticed the tap was a standard tap, it should be a bottom tap, so a trip to the grinder created a bottom tap. I ran it in, it grabbed and #4 was exctracted.. done deal.
These things make all sorts of snaps and pops and its pretty unnerving, but it's just the way the tool works.
Now " Onward! into the fog.

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... is this the 3 valve head spark plug issue? I remember looking, deep, into the extractor solutions when I was thinking of getting a Sport Trac V8. Did you get all 8 out?

 

[Fabman]

Ok so here we go..
A couple of caveats, if the top of the electrode stays with the porcelin in the plug bore, break it off. Or try to extract it
( good luck with that one) the electrode has corroded to the porcelin and it wont pop out and go into the combustion chamber. If it does, you can still fish it out with a small magnet. The reason is that you need EVERY bit of metal there for the tool to grab.
As it was, the Lisle tool worked spectacularly until plug 4. It was tired on plug 3, but plug 4 was a no go and it pulled out of the metal.. so..
Because I'm a realist, I purchased both a Lisle and a NAPA version. The lisle is by far the better piece IMO.
The difference is that the NAPA version actually uses a tap to make the threads, and the puller threads on those. In real life, this puller pulled out as well, but upon further review I noticed the tap was a standard tap, it should be a bottom tap, so a trip to the grinder created a bottom tap. I ran it in, it grabbed and #4 was exctracted.. done deal.
These things make all sorts of snaps and pops and its pretty unnerving, but it's just the way the tool works.
Now " Onward! into the fog.

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Good save!

 

[blacksheep-1]

... is this the 3 valve head spark plug issue? I remember looking, deep, into the extractor solutions when I was thinking of getting a Sport Trac V8. Did you get all 8 out?

Yes, only 4 gave me problems, This is living proof of the old saying..

"An engineer will climb over a pile of 50 virgins to screw a single technician"

 

[xr7]

Yes, only 4 gave me problems, This is living proof of the old saying..

"An engineer will climb over a pile of 50 virgins to screw a single technician"

First we had plugs blowing out of the mod engines because Ford only had about four threads holding the plug in, then they invent the plug that will fix this problem except some idiot selects a two piece design for the plug. Spark plugs have only been around for about 100 years and these "engineers" have a "Better Idea"

 

[JeffV8]

Yes, only 4 gave me problems, This is living proof of the old saying..

"An engineer will climb over a pile of 50 virgins to screw a single technician"

I need to keep that sentence. So true.

 

[RES_22]

"An engineer will climb over a pile of 50 virgins to screw a single technician"

Hilarious.....stupid engineers .

Gotta extend the love to the bean counters too...it'a always the Finance guy who has the last signature on the design and manufacturing specs. For example, sinter-forged rods in an ~8krpm engine that all the tech guys knew would be hot-rodded to Jupiter once the TMO guys got their sweaty paws on it. Great idea boss - yeah, they'll be fine .

No bucks...no Buck Rogers...sadly.

 

[Stangra]

Hilarious.....stupid engineers .

To the optimist, the glass is half full.

To the pessimist, the glass is half empty.

To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[RES_22]

To the bean counter....drink from the toilet and stop trying to tie-up capital in cr@p like gla$$es, ffs!

 

[Stangra]

The Scientist asks, "Why does it work?"
The Engineer asks, "How does it work?"
The Accountant asks, "How much will it cost?"
The Operator asks, "Would you like fries with that?"

 

[302BOB]

the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

That all depends on what you're putting in that glass......

 

[JeffV8]

Hilarious.....stupid engineers .
For example, sinter-forged rods in an ~8krpm engine that all the tech guys knew would be hot-rodded to Jupiter once the TMO guys got their sweaty paws on it. Great idea boss - yeah, they'll be fine .

No bucks...no Buck Rogers...sadly.

You mean like this

 

[RES_22]

Pics of carnage like this should be featured in business planning sessions where the tech guys are seeking additional funding to improve the product.

Maybe they are?

Maybe that's why we have Gen 3 Coyote...or why 2pc plugs are ancient history?

Should leave it here and return BS-1's thread to its purpose.....sorry Rob.

 

[JDee]

I'm back to a self imposed 6750 rpm redline. It's not racing, we don't even get trophies, so why risk blowing up a motor that would likely cost $15-20K tiny Canuck bucks to replace? The joy is in the corners, and this car never fails to put a smile on my face in those corners.

 

[blacksheep-1]

Pics of carnage like this should be featured in business planning sessions where the tech guys are seeking additional funding to improve the product.

Maybe they are?

Maybe that's why we have Gen 3 Coyote...or why 2pc plugs are ancient history?

Should leave it here and return BS-1's thread to its purpose.....sorry Rob.

no worries, it's good to vent once in awhile