S550 ITALIAN STANG BUILD :2018 MUSTANG PP1 10 SPEED Build Thread Profile - S550 Mustangs

[Ewheels]

I could see the new Dark Horse S or R in your future...

 

[flyhalf]

I could see the new Dark Horse S or R in your future...

I wished....but then i saw the contradictory statement.
We wanna go fast and race...and put a street manual in the dark horse 🫤

 

[Mad Hatter]

hmm.. you could say the same about a street 10spd automatic!!! At least the dark pony has the better Tremec. But its an even heavier car then yours.

 

[flyhalf]

hmm.. you could say the same about a street 10spd automatic!!! At least the dark pony has the better Tremec. But its an even heavier car then yours.

Exactly!!!
The difference is.. mine is a 35k street mustang .
I was really really hoping to have a DCT or sequential ( like gt4 or gt3) option.
Cause the DH R will be only race car no VIN.
They have the know how from gt500

 

[Mad Hatter]

I would have liked to see the tremec XL in the car for track duty. Not a fan of DCT cars to be honest. Might be the faster option but would feel lost without the clutch.

 

[flyhalf]

I would have liked to see the tremec XL in the car for track duty. Not a fan of DCT cars to be honest. Might be the faster option but would feel lost without the clutch.

Unfortunately is all about what targets. U want to win? A dct or sequential will be always faster.
(Cause u can also brake with left foot)
Wanna be a "purist"? Manual. That is why i think the option of manual and DCT would have been awesome.

 

[Mad Hatter]

Its true, for the best lap times, the dct or sequential will be faster. But for W2W, I would perfer manual for any race over 15min. My class is full of dct bimmers and if I push them enough the dct gives out before the end of the race.

 

[Ewheels]

Exactly!!!
The difference is.. mine is a 35k street mustang .
I was really really hoping to have a DCT or sequential ( like gt4 or gt3) option.
Cause the DH R will be only race car no VIN.
They have the know how from gt500

Has Ford actually released which trans will be in the S and R? I thought they only released info on the street car DH.
Though the FP350S was manual only so I would assume the same for the DH S/R

 

[Frank.JD.Perez]

just give it some time. just cause they announced the manual doesnt mean the auto wont be an option

 

[Mad Hatter]

would make sense...

 

[biggsy]

Well at least they announced it about a year and half in advance so that gives the community 18 months to request that they offer the DCT as an option. I doubt it but at least for a S or R allow the consumer the opportunity to have an add on for DCT. I know that may require some more engineering but could be worth it.

 

[67GTA]

Well at least they announced it about a year and half in advance so that gives the community 18 months to request that they offer the DCT as an option. I doubt it but at least for a S or R allow the consumer the opportunity to have an add on for DCT. I know that may require some more engineering but could be worth it.

I find it hard to believe they developed the TR-9070 DCT for a 2 year run on the current GT500 - there has to be more return on the R&D $’s already spent.

 

[flyhalf]

Full caging the car.. removed lots of stuff.
And i have some WEIGHTS ( the weight thread is closed)

Windshield front 27lbs
Heater 22lbs
Dashboard not premium 2018 47lbs

Door is now 21 lbs with FRAME and lock still on (from around 55-60lbs oem).cutted the double aluminum sheet and the crossbar .
A carbon Fiber one is 7 -11 lbs plus 7-10lbs of.supports and lock. NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE (except for 3grand lol)


Steering wheel and support is 16 lbs
Some numbers
~150lbs cage
-37 watson
-60 doors (doors and some extra)
-35 dashboard? (Of the 42? We might be able to use the cage as support vs oem one. We will.see)
-22 heather
-10 lexan (i think is a 10lbs lighter..to be confirmed)
-10 sound stuff.

We looking at saving of 24 lbs. So worst case we might be even.

I'm deciding if I want to put a DCT.....stay tuned.

 

[Scootsmcgreggor]

You can cut that cage weight in half if you go chromoly. But then again it needs to be Tig’d and cost is triple.

is there a dct that would be more cost effective and reliable than a sequential?

 

[flyhalf]

You can cut that cage weight in half if you go chromoly. But then again it needs to be Tig’d and cost is triple.

is there a dct that would be more cost effective and reliable than a sequential?

U can't use chromoly unfortunately. Or better u can but there is a minimum tubing size for NASA ST (W2W) so there is not a convenience.
Rollbar can be chromoly.
Mine was.it (I'm selling it by the way. Watson chromoly ~37lbs)

For DCT we are exploring. Yes there is convenience vs Sequential in terms of money.
Soon more info

 

[blacksheep-1]

You can cut that cage weight in half if you go chromoly. But then again it needs to be Tig’d and cost is triple.

is there a dct that would be more cost effective and reliable than a sequential?

I absolutely would look into this, chromoly os so much better than mild steel, if , as an example, 1-3/4 woul be the call out for mild steel, in chromoly it would be 1-1/2, so you not only get by with a smaller material (chromoly and mild steel weigh about the same, the difference is made up in size) but believe me, the TIG vs MIG welds actually add up as well,

 

[302BOB]

Why not Titanium......If the cost doesn't deter you..............Just kidding...........................

 

[Mad Hatter]

Boy, stripping the car looks tempting...... A bimmer DCT or the Gt500 tremec unit?

 

[flyhalf]

Boy, stripping the car looks tempting...... A bimmer DCT or the Gt500 tremec unit?

Bimmer..

 

[flyhalf]

I absolutely would look into this, chromoly os so much better than mild steel, if , as an example, 1-3/4 woul be the call out for mild steel, in chromoly it would be 1-1/2, so you not only get by with a smaller material (chromoly and mild steel weigh about the same, the difference is made up in size) but believe me, the TIG vs MIG welds actually add up as well,

The chromoly is lighter cause can be smaller keeping the same strenght. But NASA has minimum cage rube sizes so unfortunately there would be no weight loss.