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ArizonaBOSS said:Did nobody see the 350R CTSCC news? :-\
"Whew"NFSBOSS said:Also, I've heard that CCB's are not going to be offered at all and there just wasn't enough of a difference to justify the added expense.
That's how I felt when they weren't in the base GT350. I wouldn't be able to afford any track time with them.cloud9 said:"Whew"
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NFSBOSS said:Also, I've heard that CCB's are not going to be offered at all and there just wasn't enough of a difference to justify the added expense.
Grant 302 said:Since there haven't been any pics and no Ford exec mentioned them, I figured that has to be the case. Despite the 'order form' leak.
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twistedneck said:Those tires are way to huge IMO. its like the Z28 started this gigantic auto cross inspired over huge tires - a lot like the Pro turing Mark Stielow, Vorschlag crowd.. everyone wants the huge amount of mechanical grip and throw out refined manners and high speed drag. the freaking drag they create is horrifying and i'm sure it limits top speed.
on a track w speeds less than 140mph I get that a 305 rear and 295 front are worth it but 315 rear 305 front are steamroller sized. not only the aero drag, tram lining, and rolling resistance.. its the ugly factor. granted the bearings on this car are made much stronger than s197 just to deal with these meats. 295 square setup is the max IMO for looks and speed.
fuhrius said:I'll take the mechanical grip any day over the consequences of add'l drag. the tracks I like driving don't see speeds in the 140mph range anyway so there wouldn't really be any downside. The aesthetics piece is subjective, obviously, and I like the meat.
DGRacing said:Agree 100%.
After quite a bit of testing, I settled on a wing configuration that gives me more mechanical grip and increased my average speed for a lap at the expense of a couple mph top end speed. I have a larger OD tire which adds top end mph limits to offset somewhat. So I'm all about mechanical grip.
twistedneck does have a point about tire size addiction. lol. There is a point where it gets ridiculous, but its not 305,315's in my opinion - that's what I run! lol
It's got to be paired with the whole package, if you're at 500rwhp the extra .3-.5" treadwidth and rotating mass is worth it if you use it properly in the corners.
Looks are subjective, but more dedicated track/race cars will always look exaggerated and slightly goofy (i.e. stock cars! lol)
twistedneck said:I saw the R tires yesterday.. the look HUGE off the rims just sitting there. reminds me of the Viper when i first started working on that i was shocked how wide the rears were. this isn't that wide though. i agree 305 even 315 is probably where we need to be for tracking - the used Conti slicks are 305 / 18's but my buddy who runs them said they are more like 290's.
Doesn't Vorshlag run 345 rear 325 front? now that is huge.
back to topic, its crazy how this street car has such wide and excellent tires. these pilot sport cup 2's are probably the best performance tire ever made for a v8 front engine heavy car, i'd say better than the Trofeo's and those are some of the best in the world - but not Michelin.
twistedneck said:Doesn't Vorshlag run 345 rear 325 front? now that is huge.