My impressions are very similar. I didn't catch the 6th gear exhaust cutout closing, but have so little highway time on it. What were the temps?? I see quite a bit of snow on the ground and doesn't appear to be melting. I'm surprised you were still getting good grip.

cloud9 said:

My impressions are very similar. I didn't catch the 6th gear exhaust cutout closing, but have so little highway time on it. What were the temps?? I see quite a bit of snow on the ground and doesn't appear to be melting. I'm surprised you were still getting good grip.

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I was lucky, mid 40*s and sunny. That snow was 10-12" deep the day I got the call from the dealer on Monday

CHT got to just over 205* and Engine Oil 190* Trans and Diff were both cool. Not many/any days left with warm temps and no salt/ rain

Black Boss said:

I was lucky, mid 40*s and sunny. That snow was 10-12" deep the day I got the call from the dealer on Monday

CHT got to just over 205* and Engine Oil 190* Trans and Diff were both cool. Not many/any days left with warm temps and no salt/ rain

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10-4......pretty much got our weather a few days later. It's amazing the grip you get in the mid-40s and 50s......can't wait to try it in 70+* weather! 8)

ArizonaBOSS said:

Bring it down to AZ and let the flogging begin...still have track days and races going on through early December, then new season starts in January. Just sayin'

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Would love to, but want to get 1,000 break in miles done first. May take the Boss down to Daytona next week for a winter break -- a bit closer than AZ

Congrats, Nick! Your R looks great, and I really loved the new 'family portrait' you posted from the garage!!! Also extremely glad to see you and Todd ordered 'proper' R models...... Looking forward to following the enhancement during the winter and seeing you at the tracks next year.

Z20WHAT said:

Congrats, Nick! Your R looks great, and I really loved the new 'family portrait' you posted from the garage!!! Also extremely glad to see you and Todd ordered 'proper' R models...... Looking forward to following the enhancement during the winter and seeing you at the tracks next year.

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Thanks Chuck,

There's only one way to order an R!

Look forward to seeing you, Luke and your Dad at the Track, Happy Holidays!

Measured the front rotors:



At 36.05mm new to 34.0mm minimum, that's a similar wear allowance to my 2 piece Boss Rotors , they were 31.9mm new, with a 30.0mm minimum. Like the rears, the additional diameter and thickness should improve rotor life.

Black Boss said:

There's only one way to order an R!

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My sentiments exactly. But only 6 of us out of 37 actually ordered them the right way for 15MY.

2012B2L said:

My sentiments exactly. But only 6 of us out of 37 actually ordered them the right way for 15MY.

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Wow - 16%! Surprising given the track focus of this car. It took me over 5 hours to remove the A/C, Radio and Trunk Junk from the Boss.....

2 interesting details, the 'base' R still has a rear view camera, it's just not wired in and obviously there's no screen. Also no Floor Mats -- they are part of the Electronics package -- which in hindsight makes sense -- more weight!

2012B2L said:

My sentiments exactly. But only 6 of us out of 37 actually ordered them the right way for 15MY.

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That's amazing only 6 were ordered that way. For the record I would not have been one of them. : And this is why.

Took some more measurements on the car today:

Front Toe was 0.0. Track spec for 350 is 0.1* Out, Track spec for R is 0.06* In. This probably explains the Tram-Lining I mentioned in an earlier post for road use. For Street use I'd expect Toe In. For Track this is close to ideal.

Rear Toe was 3/32" In. Both the 350 and R Track specs are 0.3* in (1/8") In, So I will need to increase rear Toe for the Track.

Rear Camber was 1.2*, very close to the R Track spec of 1.25*. Spec for 350 is 1.00*

Front Camber was also 1.2* less than both the 350 (1.5*) and R (1.75*) Specs, so Camber Plates are needed.

I didn't check Caster as Camber changes will impact that.....


** Edited to correct rear toe spec

VooDooBOSS said:

That's amazing only 6 were ordered that way. For the record I would not have been one of them. : And this is why.

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Rick

For the music or because the outside temp is 111? 8)

The temps! The AC is what I'd be after. I'd only order that if it was a stand alone option.

I hate you guys.

You know I really love you. :-*

The car is just perfect Nick, can't wait to see it up close.
Happy Thanksgiving all.
Steve

PS Wood Brothers and Ryan Blaney running full schedule next year! Thanks to Edsel Ford and the Ford Performance guys.

steveespo said:

I hate you guys.

You know I really love you. :-*

The car is just perfect Nick, can't wait to see it up close.
Happy Thanksgiving all.
Steve

PS Wood Brothers and Ryan Blaney running full schedule next year! Thanks to Edsel Ford and the Ford Performance guys.

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As cool as they are, there's still something uniquely special about the 21 car. It and its owner are one of a kind.

Happy Thanksgiving to all of you and your families.

Now that the mods can begin, I picked up a set of MM Camber plates today, on sale this weekend with free shipping too:

http://www.maximummotorsports.com/Mustang-Caster-Camber-Plates-2015-P1480.aspx

Patrick at Watson thought these would fit, and I checked the Ford service parts catalog, the top strut nut is the same GT350R/Base S550, so hopefully the Mag shock strut has the same diameter shaft.

@cloud9

Black Boss said:

Now that the mods can begin, I picked up a set of MM Camber plates today, on sale this weekend with free shipping too:

http://www.maximummotorsports.com/Mustang-Caster-Camber-Plates-2015-P1480.aspx

Patrick at Watson thought these would fit, and I checked the Ford service parts catalog, the top strut nut is the same GT350R/Base S550, so hopefully the Mag shock strut has the same diameter shaft.

@cloud9

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Thanks for the heads up. Done. You'll get yours installed well ahead of mine so hopefully it all goes smoothly.

Thanks for posting up your alignment specs. Do you think they change at all for the GT350 once you change to R size wheels and 315s on the corners, or are the different alignment specs for the two cars only dictated by the shorter/stiffer front springs and shorter arm on the RSB?

cloud9 said:

Do you think they change at all for the GT350 once you change to R size wheels and 315s on the corners, or are the different alignment specs for the two cars only dictated by the shorter/stiffer front springs and shorter arm on the RSB?

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Great question, but beyond my understanding of suspension geometry. I would hazard a guess that some of the increased camber on the R specs is due to stickier tires enabling higher cornering grip, but then as you point out the R has other changes.

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Great question, but beyond my understanding of suspension geometry. I would hazard a guess that some of the increased camber on the R specs is due to stickier tires enabling higher cornering grip, but then as you point out the R has other changes.

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I like front camber for extending tire wear as much as the added grip. I will probably go with something closer to the R spec of -1.75* (maybe -1.70*) and see how it goes. If I'm wearing inside tire edges faster than the rest of the tire I will go back to -1.5* Interesting that it's at least 1* less negative than we ran the S197s. I assume it's due to the double ball joint front strut design?

Nice, if you install the CC plates can you please measure the height of the spring and take photos and post the part number? I'm thinking of installing the R front springs and that would be helpful. I'm also hoping Gary does this first.